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« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2005, 01:30:29 AM »
 the xerox 401(k) savings plans offer Quicken and Mirosoft Money downloads through the xerox / hewitt web site ( http://resources.hewitt.com/xerox[/url] ) .

for those of you who have xerox 401(k) access and use Quicken / Microsoft Money , you might log on and check it out .  :) 
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« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2005, 02:55:53 AM »
 TurboTax updating problems :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/...g/15034/1046879[/url]

i still recommend TurboTax as a retirement planning tool and a excellent resource for money management . i've been using TT for six years now . for those of you with other TurboTax problems i strongly suggest their support forums ( http://support.turbotax.com/forums/[/url] ) . a more detailed explanation of my problem and fix is there : http://support.turbotax.com/forums/index.p...st=0&#entry2371[/url]
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2005, 07:11:18 PM »
 hi allen,
i'm turning 62, i'm getting conflicting advice on collecting SS, what's your take (i'm working part time)

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« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2005, 07:44:37 PM »
 Kilo,

Take it and run with it...I turned 62 last month and the first check goes in direct deposit on 2/15....

I signed up online and it was a snap...

The new number for earnings for 2005 is $12,000...If you make over that much in taxable earnings this year the Social Security folks will deduct $1 in benefits for each $2 that you make over $12,000...Of course if you wait till you're 65 you can make all you want with no penalty...The Social Security folks will call and clarify any questions that you might have and inform you of the earnings limit...Once you turn 65 you can work all you want but who wants to work then???? :)

Your investment money, 401K, annuity or whatever is not counted against that 12 grand, only money that you make in wages...

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« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2005, 09:16:09 PM »
 i agree with boatbum , kilo . take it and run . most social security offices will tell you the same thing . waiting until 65 or beyond only works if you currently have a high paying job and you don't need the social security check .

the way the numbers work , you'd have to live into your 80's to make a difference in taking your check at 62 verus 65 . plus you have QUALITY years now that you have your health , can travel , etc . your later years after 80 aren't likely to be as good a experience .  B)  .

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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2005, 05:26:32 AM »
 kilo ,  in order to give a better answer to your social security question , i located my own personal social security statement that we all receive every year now :

i receive $1,321 a month at age 62

i receive $1,752 a month at age 66

i receive $2,313 a month at age 70

if i wait until age 66 to retire i would collect $431 more a month than i would at age 62 , BUT i also do not collect that 4 year benefit of $63,408 ( $1,321 x 12 months x 4 years ) . if you divide the additional benefit of $431 a month into $63,408 , you would have to live an additional 147.118 months ( 12.259 years ) on the other end of 66 ( or 78 + ) in order to break even and then begin to be ahead after that age .

if i wait until 70 to retire i would collect $992 a month more , BUT i also do not collect that 8 year benefit of $126,816 ( $1,321 x 12 months x 8 years ) . if you divide the additional benefit of $992 a month into $126,816 , you would have to live an additional 127.838 months ( 10.653 years ) on the other end of age 70 ( or 80 + ) in order to break even and then begin to be ahead after that age .

there are of course many other factors such as are you even going to be alive at age 66 , or age 70 , or age 78 , or 80  ? ? . what would the quality of your life be at that time . would the money be better spent now while you can enjoy it . ? ? did your parents ( do you have good genes ) live into their 90's and 100 and beyond with sane mind and a active life style and enjoy their last years . ? ? or is your life , as ALL seniors i have talked to say , "  that life is different after 80 " . not bad , but you begin to feel your age AFTER you're 80 . and there are good days and bad days . and the bad days begin to catch up with ya . i just turned 60 and i enjoy a very active life style and surf every day when i'm in hawaii and usually walk 6 to 8 miles a day or more even now in below zero weather in alaska ( and freeze even with my parka on  :) ) and plus 85 / 90 degree sun in hawaii ( i sweat like a pig over there , but it helps keep the winter fat off  :)  ) . i never take elevators . always take the stairs in all buildings and i live on the fifth ( 5th ) floor in each of my condos . i always park on the far end of a empty parking lot and walk across the tarmac instead of parking close to the doors . i go on 10 to 20 mile hiking trips regularily in alaska and camp out for days to weeks at a time in my VW Eurovan camper sleeping in a sleeping bag sometimes in freezing weather ( + - 32 degrees F  -  two sleeping bags  :)  ) and stay active working on my real estate clearing brush in alaska and jungle in hawaii by hand with a 36 inch bow saw . i can take down a fair sized tree with my 36 inch bow saw .

most retirement planners i have talked to suggest the sooner you collect a benefit , the better , even at a reduced rate . the wait , in most cases , is questionable . over 80% of the public collect their benefit earlier cause it usually makes sense . also keep in mind , the sooner you start collect social security , the sooner your yearly annual cost of living increases kicks in . in the above examples , i would get 4 or 8 additional years worth of annual increases .

please keep in mind kilo , as with all assumptions in life , god knows what the social security calculation will be in the future or at our age 66 or 70 . and all these numbers are likely to change over time and may not be accurate . i figure the goverment is looking for a way to decrease the benefit . not because they don't like me , but because they are running out of money - fast .

kilo . you can use your own social security statement with your own numbers and a blank sheet of paper and a calculator and play with it . as with most personal decisions , it's different for everybody . good luck and let us know what you decide and why . helps others , myself included , from re - inventing the wheel .

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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2005, 05:53:50 PM »
 hi allen and bb,
thanks for the input, i suppose a sit-down with SSA would be a good step. the more info the better, and, of course, i want to make sure our numbers match. only one person has told me to hold off. as for life style, i do stay active, so i'm hoping to stick around for a while, just to prove my wife wrong.

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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2005, 11:57:39 PM »
 kilo .

let us know what social security tells ya . when my best friend took a early out with a year's pay from xerox , he didn't go down to talk to social security until he was 63 after his year's pay was over . when social security found our how old he was , they told him that he made a mistake by not drawing his benefit sooner .  :blink:  .

it'll be interesting to see what you find out . i won't go down to my local social security office for a few more years yet , but i plan on going in at least six months before i'm 62 to be able to get the full scoop and think about it awhile .

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« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2005, 10:34:20 PM »
 Fannie Mae's :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/...g/55973/1047861[/url]

for those of you who hold these fixed income investments in your retirement portfolio , " a word to the wise is sufficient  " . this is not a opinion of Fannie Mae as a corporation or Franklin Raines as a individual person nor the opinion of xertech or Kirk or myself . this is just for educational purposes only . remember whose money you're investing and whose retirement money you're most concerned about  -  your own .  :)  .
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« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2005, 12:27:27 AM »
 well big ' O ' , had lunch with clayt and dick today and got my book back . course i had to spring for the tab too so he's sly as a fox that buddy of yours . ?  :blink:  ? .  

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« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2005, 04:16:39 AM »
 just received a personal e - mail from ' formertech ' about where i live in alaska and own property and her experience here on vacation in 1997 . i responded to Suzanne that i presently reside in Anchorage , Alaska for half the year and Kailua - Kona , Hawaii part of the winter . and also own additional property in fairbanks and homer , alaska ; and property near hilo , hawaii .

for those of you that send me a personal e - mail , unless you request otherwise , i will share those e - mails and my responses here on one of my forums .

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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2005, 04:30:23 AM »
 Got a few shares of stock ticker ALE and KAR, both are doing fair, and oh yes, the big X still is holding a few of the esop shares for me. Don't know exactly what to do with the esop shares. Have any of you old Xeroids  sold your esop shares?  Clayt always had a nack for leaving his wallet at home. Did he order the big breakfast or just his normal short stack of cakes and cold milk with the meal?

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« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2005, 04:42:07 AM »
 hi big ' O ' ,

you're right about Clayt. leaving his wallet at home when he has lunch with us .  :(  . we ate at a local Pizza Hut so he had the usual Pizza Hut fare there yesterday .

i exchanged my ESOP shares for 1,377 xerox common shares at a cost basis of $ 13.05 a share . which means i paid ordinary income taxes on the $ 13.05 a share and will pay capital gains taxes ( 15% or less now depending on your tax bracket ) on the amount i sell above that price . so , at this point , i'm still " in the money " .  :)  . i don't trade individual stocks anymore . they're too difficult to accurately research anymore what with companies not being totally honest in recent years . xerox isn't the only company that's been caught with their foot in their mouth reporting false numbers .  :(  . i'm a mutual fund investor now and have accounts with Schwab , Fidelity and about to open an account with Vanguard . and , of course , our xerox 401(k) is a big bunch of mutual funds too .  

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« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2005, 11:27:15 PM »
 retirement spending :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/...g/23373/1055364[/url]

it's really difficult to come up with a formula that works for everybody . as one person said when asked how much it takes to live ,  "  everything you've got " .  :)  . the more you have , obviously the easier it is . 
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« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2005, 11:25:48 PM »
 advice for the retired investor :

http://www.bylo.org/wsjxxmay02jc.html[/url]

as i've said before , there is alot of information on how to invest to build critical mass to be able to retire and not much information for retirees on how to invest to be able to live without losing your hard earned retirement assets . 
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