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« Reply #105 on: August 25, 2005, 08:58:15 PM »
 Hi Al--The big O here--I just sat in on one of those free luncheon type meetings, where the suits were doing their best to sell  us annunites. Now I know Clayt says stay away from them. So can you spill the beans on them, and get me back on track. 3 months of free money to go, and hopefully the cash out option will still be a choice for me when I draw the line in the sand with the BIG X.  later--owen

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« Reply #106 on: August 26, 2005, 01:30:14 AM »
 hi big " O " ,

sorry about being late in getting back to ya , but i just got back from a trip to fairbanks to line up a real estate sale for next calendar year .

thanks to what you've learned , you know enough to stay away from annuities . ONLY  in very rare cases , and then  ONLY  for a very limited part of your total portfolio are they even worth considering .

it's simply too easy to  KEEP  the cash in your estate and pay yourself a monthly / yearly sum . even just leaving it in our income fund in our 401(k) is better ..........  and safer .  

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« Reply #107 on: August 27, 2005, 02:24:05 PM »
 Roth IRA / Roth 401(k)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165530,00.html[/url]

pretty good little article cause it compares the regular Roth IRA with the new Roth 401(k) that takes effect next year . i've been a fan of these since they started years ago and have done several Roth conversions and intend to do more of them in the future . 
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« Reply #108 on: August 27, 2005, 04:13:57 PM »
 hi allen,
a retired friend of mine said "take the lump sump, and if you REALLY MUST have an annuity you can always buy one any time ", and thanks for the ROTH info, now that i'm working for a college i wonder if they'll have a ROTH 403b.

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« Reply #109 on: August 27, 2005, 04:25:53 PM »
 excellent question kilo . i'm sure your college benefits custodian should be able to answer that for ya . the Roth 401(k)'s are so new that not many know the full details about them yet .

i still have quite a bit in my xerox 401(K) and i'm hoping the regulations next year will allow me a similar Roth conversion process similar to my traditional / rollover IRA  Roth conversions that i'm doing now . ? ? . i'm waiting until after 2006 to question Hewitt / Xerox about that possibility . i'd love to leave my money with the xerox 401(k) in a  TAXFREE  status .  :)  .

and your comments on lumpsums and creating your own annuity / pension are correct and assist others in keeping their money in hand as long as possible . cause once you've given it to someone else , it's usually impossible to get it back .

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as an update to this reply kilo , there hasn't been much change to my comments other than a company / custodian is  NOT  required to provide a ROTH 401(k) and so far they ( companies / providers / custodians ) are dragging their feet on offering them by the january 1st , 2006 deadline . we'll just have to wait and see .  

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« Reply #110 on: September 15, 2005, 09:19:30 PM »
 latest from AARP on pensions :

http://www.aarp.org/bulletin/yourmoney/pension.html[/url]

$700 left in 401(k)s and other savings plans after 30 years . ouch  :(  .
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« Reply #111 on: September 22, 2005, 02:43:16 AM »
 I am getting close --55 days--till my final date. Any how, is there any thing that a person should know about , such as glicthes in the Xerox system or talking to persons who aren't quite with it, that can cause problems. I have talked with different individuals, and they are not entirely happy with the way they were processed out. I am just trying to exit with out a bitter taste about the whole thing. Any ideas or suggestions for us type of Xeroids who are leaving.  later--Big 0

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« Reply #112 on: September 22, 2005, 03:08:18 PM »
 hello goombay ,

sorry for the delay in getting back to you on your question , but i was having difficulty getting myself logged back in on xertech after getting a new laptop .

for whatever it's worth , my conversations with several different tech reps are very mixed . some , like myself , had their 401(k) money transferred within three weeks and others took three months . i think the most important thing is develop a  DIALOG  with hewitt and to call them back regularily to make sure either they have received the materials you've sent them or to update them , and yourself , as to what is needed next . durning my ' transition ' period from employment to retirement , i was on the phone alot with them and ALWAYS ended EVERY phone call with a short agreement from the hewitt / xerox rep as to when i could call back or when i should expect the next thing to happen . it doesn't do you any good to just call them several times a day if they aren't prepared to give you any fresh new information .  in your conversations , please remember that getting angry or mad doesn't help your situation and they are there to assist and serve you . please read and reread all the packet material they sent you as to what it is they expect from you to return in your application . often times , a single piece of information can cost you another week's or month delay .

at the time i retired , some of the specific information they required was my ' birth certificate ' , wife's birth certificate , our marriage license , EXACT account coding / routing information for your check to your new account . PLUS numerous federal and xerox signed paperwork in your packet .

at the time i separated , i was given the advice that receiving my ' transitional account ' money from my xerox 401(k) would be done the fastest if the check were sent to my home mailing address instead of your new custodian's mailing address . PLEASE - REPEAT - PLEASE - make sure the check IS NOT made out to you personally , but to your new custodian's account in your name . in my case i rolled my xerox ' transitional account ' into a Schwab rollover IRA account i had set up at a local Schwab office . in some instances , you can imagine how much longer it might take if your check were sent to the national Schwab office in america while you called every day asking where the heck is my money while your check sat in that huge inbox waiting for the next available rep to open and process . ARXE ( http://www.arxe.org[/url] ) has a new excellent FAQ section on their web site that is updated often and is a growing data base of important information . and the xerox matterofchoice web site (http://www.matterofchoice.com[/url] ) also has an excellent FAQ section for you to read .

at all times remember that ' be nice ' , cause if you want to fight with the rep on the phone , it can delay your processing of your money and usually you're going to have much more difficulties with your new custodian if you intend to transfer your money than you are with xerox / hewitt . and , of course , you always have the option to leave a portion or all of your money in the xerox 401(k) and take a distribution directly from there for your retirement living expenses . good luck and let us know how it gos . your experience will help others who will leave after you .
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« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2005, 04:42:57 PM »
 latest news on 401(k) plans :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/...ng/6344/1129887[/url]

this is timely considering goombay's 401(k) email exchange with me in the above two posts .
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« Reply #114 on: September 24, 2005, 12:07:28 AM »
 Can't you just have your TRA money rolled into your 401k account ? I understand that they will issue a check once a month from your 401k account and you can withdraw as needed with just a phone call. Im still 8 monthes away from makeing that choice.

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« Reply #115 on: September 24, 2005, 12:41:25 AM »
 hello toner ,

absolutely . you can roll over your ' transitional ' account into your 401(k) and take a distribution in pretty much any amount you want . and a phone call to Hewitt is the best way to figure out all that stuff . they can make an automatic deposit into most any account including a personal checking account . one retiree i know says it usually takes two days to go from the 401(k) to State Street bank and then two more days to clear into his personal checking account . so generally , for him , it's four to five days every transaction every month . you can set it up so it automaticly happens so you don't have to call for every deposit if you want .

when i was calling Hewitt on the phone when i was employed , the best time for them was first thing in the morning their time , tuesday through thursday . the worse time was on fridays , especially late friday afternoons or mondays . i think they are on central time . i've actually had some people who called them when they weren't busy actually spent up to four hours on the phone with them and were able to get most all of their questions answered . the more difficult your questions , the more likely you will get through to a superviser and really get the details .

let us know how it gos . no sense in reinventing the wheel here amongst friends and teammates . heck , what you learn and SHARE makes everybodies life easier . there will be others after you just as there were others before you .

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« Reply #116 on: September 27, 2005, 02:46:26 AM »
 Universal Life Insurance vs Index Funds :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/.../121064/1130777[/url]

thoughts and questions to consider . the author has his own disclaimer and since this article is mostly questions and things to consider , i won't issue the usual disclaimer for xertech.org , suite101 , or myself . just remember whose money you're giving away when you invest in these things .  :)  . 
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« Reply #117 on: September 28, 2005, 04:51:27 AM »
 math assumption spreadsheet on investment question above :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/.../121064/1131210[/url]

this is the kind of ' back of the envelope ' kind of pencil pushing you have to do to figure out the different kinds of investment vehicles to choose from . it's called investing and you're better off being your own advisor rather than giving your money to some one else to lose for ya . heck , i can lose it just as easy myself , plus then i know exactly where it went and why .  :)  . 
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« Reply #118 on: October 02, 2005, 10:37:33 PM »
 a study of retirement withdrawal rates :

http://www.efficientfrontier.com/ef/998/hell.htm[/url]

as the article is describes , your withdrawal calculator can be truely the calculator from ' hell ' . so be careful putting your trust into computer calculators or the " computer spreadsheet " your advisor may show you in order to sell you on a particular investment . your best security may be your ability to do without . just remember whose money you're investing and who may be eating ' alpo ' in the future .  :)  .

apologize for the format of the web page link on wider computer screens ( at least on my new 17 inch laptop screen ) , but i think it is the web page and not your computer or mine . it's worth reading anyway . there are other studies in the past too that observe that people who lose money in the beginning of their retirement / investment cycle almost NEVER make it up over the long run . in other words , they last longer than their money does . so caution is very important when it comes to maintaining your critical mass . when you're young , it's a different story about making up mistakes or losses . when you're older and in retirement , it is a serious mistake to take risks with your critical mass because you may not and probably will not have time on your side to get it back again .

needless to say , such advice about ' caution ' isn't necessarily the advice of xertech.org or anyone else associated with this site or this web page link . but , it is my advice and i firmly believe in it . better you accept a few dollars less in returns in retirement than to be ' greedy ' and lose it . you won't get another ' career ' to make up for it . not with the way pensions are going by the wayside now .
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« Reply #119 on: October 06, 2005, 12:07:20 AM »
 how to ruin your retirement :

http://www.suite101.com/print_message.cfm/...g/23373/1132933[/url]

if you have difficulty seeing how this method is done , just look around you at your neighbor . many people you already know are planning for their retirement this way .  :)  . 
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