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OldXeroid

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Tough TAD!
« on: February 25, 2010, 11:28:44 PM »
I spent a good portion of the day trying to align a TAD to the P/R belt. Tried moving the drive cluster and setting the alignment front to back. Moved P/R top clamshell as far as possible to the left, right up against the stop. Removed the assy and noticed no red flags.

All solenoids have very positive actuation in DC330. Tried to shim it on the inbrd side using a pan head washer. It would slide into position but, I could not shim the outbrd side to maintain parallelism front to back. It will make a nice "E" pattern print on 14" paper in duplex mode with no transfer blade.

I must run it without a blade or it will generate dirt and belt scratches because it rests on the P/R belt. I never saw a tough cookie like this when I was in the field with Xerox. I am not sure that a new assy will guarantee any success.

Any suggestions out there?

craman

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2010, 03:34:21 PM »
the tad ass sits in pins make sure both sides are in,also ive seen a new assamble ride too close to prb you have to bend the hard points where the #1 sol is bend it down to increase the gap it lifts that bed to more of a 90 degree.hope it helps I fought this one for awhile before i figured it out they would complain about dirt on back sides of copies..

good luck

rockin57rod

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 04:22:53 PM »
They are a pain to get in the right place....did you set up the timing...what happens if you knock the timing way back...does the blade run clean then? if the blade is getting dirty ...it is in contact with the belt ...when the sheet is not there....you can clean or replace the #1 solenoid...leave it so it can flex in the clip that holds it...so it can find it's own position...make sure the wires are not pinched and PHN DIO #2 is not damaged ...there seem to be some up/down travel when you install the assembly...it's all about finding the happy spot...

OldXeroid

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 12:39:53 AM »
I did not try to bend the tab assy to get it further away from the P/R belt. I did replace the #1 sol & its plunger.  It went together well with no evident binding. I do appreciate the feedback and will revisit it when I get my enthusiasm back.

Thanks. 

rockin57rod

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 10:47:02 PM »
I'd suggest a single malt...............

OldXeroid

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 02:55:49 AM »
 :-D  :-D  :-D

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 01:48:26 AM »
aaahhh.......single malt!!! I've had fights with these things before. If your timing is correct, it is not the actuation of the solenoid but the deactuation that causes the dirt and scratches. Sometimes the blade doesn't come off of the belt.....especially during long runs. The sensor on the assembly is important in that it is used for altering the timing during long runs. The software was designed to do this because of the assumption that when the solenoid is very hot it will get sluggish.There is an alignment tool for the PR module, but since you have moved it max left, that's probably not going to help. I found when adjusting the timing with the pad/liquid, it's a good idea to start at default values. If it was previously set way out of whack, it doesn't adjust into spec very effectively. Also if your adj. numbers overlap, it won't operate properly. Hope this helps!

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 03:57:09 PM »
I'm more of a Bourbon drinker, but one thing I found our about the TAD assembly is that the solenoids need to be able to align themselves. So don't try to secure them with anything other than the spring they use to hold the solenoid in place, or wrap a cable tie around the solenoid. It tends to throw things off.  Clean the plunger and the solenoid with some WD-40 on a wiper. When you actuate any of the solenoids in diagnostics they should be able to drive the assembly so that it actuates the sensor in diagnostics.

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Re: Tough TAD!
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 02:36:51 PM »
I've had a warped transfer dicor housing interfere with good actuation causing the blade to drag on p/r belt