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LaserGuy

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SWAP EPS135 Controller for 4635 NPS
« on: January 12, 2010, 09:18:03 PM »
I have a customer who insists on an NPS controller for his 4635.
 
 If anyone has an up to date Ultra 60 or Blade 1000 running NPS 8.6 on their 4635,  we could work out a straight-across swap. 
There are big advantages to the EPS and it emulates NPS anyway,  but Fred Flintstone is adamant about his choice.

Time is of the essence, a machine sale hangs in the balance  . . .

Please email me:

JorgeXcalak@live.com

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Re: SWAP EPS135 Controller for 4635 NPS
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 01:32:21 AM »
The NPS will do things in the print stream that the Docusp cannot.
You can automatically run batch programs to run conditional merging on NPS's, Docusp can only dream of that, i have tried to make it work.

So this "Fred Flintstone" probably has a good reason other than not getting pressured into buying something that won't work for him.


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Re: SWAP EPS135 Controller for 4635 NPS
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 04:00:22 PM »
Xerox' sales literature states that the EPS software (originally DocuSP, now re-branded FFPS in newer versions) emulates the old NPS. 
Is this not the case?

I've helped several large companies,  mail houses and people running 100& variable mostly,  in their transition from NPS to EPS, from 4635 to 135 EPS, and I've yet to have anyone say they missed some aspect of the NPS.   Increased file compatibility (pdf and PPML),  elimination of the UIM,  more user friendly interface seem to be some of the advantages.  Beefed up servers start and stay ahead of the job, no matter how complex it is.
    And it's due to get better when FFPS 7 with its native pdf interpreter is released.

Am I missing something here?  Is Win95 indeed better than Win7?   Were those stone wheels on Fred's car really better than Michellins?

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Re: SWAP EPS135 Controller for 4635 NPS
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 08:47:29 PM »
You have to buy the added licensing for the NPS compatibility.

The Docusp ignores alot of embedded PS that might be written by programs that are 8-10 years old, but were very expensive to buy, and still work great.
The analogy of stone wheels versus michelins isn't a good one.

The program i dealt with automatically took the conditional data, and merged it with conditional images that it sent over to the NPS through FTP, then took the data and images as it was printing. Docusp can't or won't interprete the intelligence in the PS datastream.
PDF isn't an answer, PPML might, but if PS2 for them, why reinvent the wheel, they probably just need a bump up to a higher version of NPS.

Customers aren't stupid, they know what they want, i have spent countless hours getting them what they want by listening to them, instead pissing them off by getting them into something they don't want by ignoring them when they need help.

And Dos was extremely stable, but i don't use it anymore because my applications can be transferred to newer OS's, It doesn't mean that Dos was bad.

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Re: SWAP EPS135 Controller for 4635 NPS
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 08:23:35 PM »
Xerox' sales literature states that the EPS software (originally DocuSP, now re-branded FFPS in newer versions) emulates the old NPS. 
Is this not the case?


No, this is not the case. There are many differences WRT many operational points, like tray pulls, which work completely differently on the 2 platforms.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it is backwards and stone age. That's a pretty silly stance to take, don't you think? For example, while a Mainframe is big, old, and expensive to operate, it's memory mapping technology makes the current PC look like a stone hammer and chisel - a Mainframe can store data 100 times more efficently because it doesn't use blocks pre-set aside of a specific format and size no matter how much is being stored.

Older - yes. Bad - that's silly.

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 09:14:06 PM »
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This is a free country.  If some guy wants to run DOS on his PC and use that to send files to his DT135  (or 4635) that is certainly his right.  I recently came across a printer who still does his invoices on a typewriter  -and not even a Selectric!  Different strokes for different folks.  The tires on the bus go round and round  -even if they are stone.